Crews were called to the apartments around 2:30 p.m., Sunday, and left by 5:15 p.m.
There were no injuries, according to police and fire reports."
"County Attorney Mark Payne reminded the committee that commissioners can work on 2 tracks. "If there are two plans we should send them at the same time". "Here is the problem. When the state made the law to make Guilford County a 9 member board with 8 districts and 1 at large and that they needed a clearence from DOJ in this bill there was no mention of sending any other plans for them to consider. During the Guilford County Redistricting Committee meetings we have been hearing that Skip Alston wants to also send a 9 member map with 2 at large to the DOJ if the citizens of Guilford County will approve a referendum to by pass what was done and to go back to a 11 member board .
Public Hearing Notice - Thursday, July 28 at 5:30 p.m. | |
The Redistricting Committee of the Guilford County Board of Commissioners hereby gives notice of a public hearing to receive public comments in its efforts to adopt a redistricting plan pursuant to the requirements of the General Assembly in Session Law 2011-172 as well as N.C.G.S. 153A-22. The public hearing shall be held on July 28, 2011 at 5:30 P.M. in the Commissioners Meeting Room located at the Old County Courthouse, 301 W. Market Street, Greensboro, NC. |
"Alston said two of the maps he submitted were put together by county staff under his direction. The third, he said, he put together with a group of “political advisers” he declined to name.The Chairman directed the creation of all 3 maps
“They’re not big players, just some people who know the area and the issues whose opinions I trust,” Alston said. “They’re just an informal advisory committee.”
“But it won’t pass the Department of Justice. They’re going to recognize this as a retrogressive move that will dilute the voting strength of minorities,” said Melvin “Skip” Alston, the Democratic chairman of the Guilford Board of Commissioners"
1. | to go back to an earlier, esp worse, condition; degenerate or deteriorate |
2. | to move backwards; recede To hear the chairman state that he knows that what the U.S. Department of Justice is going to do is total hearsay and he has no proof of this. It will be interesting to see if it will pass the DOJ for approval but noting that no other county in the state has 11 board members throws that argument right out the door. Good luck with the retrogressive argument. It is time to reduce the Guilford County Commissioners to 9 and if you would like to e mail your Guilford County Commissioners to let them know how you feel CLICKHERE and you can get all the information you need to reach your commissioner . UPDATE Mark Binker has a late post on what transpired last night CLICKHERE |
During the Guilford County Commissioners meeting on April 15, 2010, Commissioner Linda Shaw had something to say about the upcoming primary, click on the embedded video above.
As you can see from this video, it seems that Guilford County Commissioner Linda Shaw thinks it is OK to say during a commissioner's meeting that if you live in Stokesdale, Summerfield, Oak Ridge and northern part of Greensboro, Linda Shaw would appreciate your vote for her in the upcoming republican primary.
This might not be illegal, but it sure is unethical for a commissioner to say this during a meeting.
The Guilford County Commissioners meeting gets televised all over the area from cable channel 8 on time warner. This is why we see some people talk about the equal time that opponents want in elections because the incumbents have a huge advantage if they are going to do unethical acts like Commissioner Linda Shaw did during the meeting, in telling people in the third district that she would appreciate their vote.
You can also hear the laughing in the background at the end and the videographer panning back to Chairman Skip Alston laughing.
This was not funny and needs to be addressed by the county attorney.
This type of unethical behavior needs to stop, and for the record the county attorney Mark Payne should completely strike what Commissioner Linda Shaw said from the record, and take it off the county web site of video.
If they repeat this meeting on cable access channel 8 then take it off as well. During the next Guilford County Commissioners meeting, Linda Shaw should state that she made a mistake and would also like to say that you can also vote for Sam Spagnola as well in the primary if you live in oak ridge, summerfield, stokesdale and northern parts of Greensboro for equal time to all candidates.
We will see what happens next, but this act by Commissioner Linda Shaw might not be illegal but surely it is unethical.
In the editorial this is what was said in the second section
Failing the sniff test?
That may be so, steamed High Point blogger Keith Brown, but this trip "stunk to high heaven."
At issue is the fact that Carroll does business with the city and county governments. He received tax incentives from both entities to help build a new 17-story downtown tower, Center Pointe. Could his generosity with the free flight curry favor for him with elected leaders in the future?
It's a fair question. Yet, in times like these, public-private partnerships are especially valuable and necessary. "If we have private businesses that are willing to help get our elected leaders to a location to bring dollars back to Greensboro, then, by golly, we ought to do it," Sanders said.
There certainly is plenty of precedent for such partnerships in recent years. For instance, the nonprofit economic booster group Action Greensboro footed the bill for jet trips to Oklahoma City for citizens and city leaders in 2002, and Columbus, Ga., and Chattanooga, Tenn., in 2001.
As long as those relationships are up-front and transparent, shouldn't they be permitted for the common good they promote?
In the case of Carroll, yes, he has received incentives and, as a developer, yes, he does periodically come before local boards on zoning matters. But his company is not involved in the South Elm/Lee Street development. "He has no vested interest in what is happening on that site," Sanders said. "All he was trying to do was to be a good citizen."
Then if you read more of the story in the business journal ,this is what was said about this whole elm street project" Essentially, the deal looks like this. The school system would sell the 16 acres it now occupies in Fisher Park, along with other properties around the county , to private developers. The new property tax revenue generated from those sales would help pay the school system's portion of the bonds floated to build the new 250,000-square-foot headquarters on South Elm. City and County bond funds would also pay for the building."
It would be interesting to know just who the private developers are who are going to get the land swap deal from the school system as stated in the business journal. One fact that we know is that Roy Carroll owns land a few blocks away from this property and where does he fit in to this land swap deal or private developers deal because he might not have a financial interest in lee street but he sure does have plenty of property close to the school board buildings and other properties that the school owns in the area that is up for a land swap deal or private developers deal.
Today we have another post from Guarino with a title "The Airplane Trip To D.C., and our Elected Officials" CLICKHERE, great post.
Later in the week on July 4, 2009 Triadwatch had this post with a title"Developer Roy Carroll's Plane Will Sit on Tarmac While the Mayor and Chairman Ponder Ethical Standards." CLICKHERE
News 2 and reporter Justin Quesinberry on July 6, 2009 did a complete puff piece on this whole affair , CLICKHERE but one of the interesting apsects of this puff piece was that the city and county attorneys were the city staff who had problems with this local developer who has and still does business with the City of Greensboro.
Now on July 10, 2009 the Greensboro News & Record has a article with a title "City Attorney Advised Against Trip Over Ethical Concerns." CLICKHERE .
Here is a few excerpts from the article
"Johnson said she was comfortable with making the trip after she learned that Carroll has no financial stake in the project.
"I guess that’s why you have lawyers. You try to listen to them,” she said. “You don’t want people to have any question in their minds whether you are doing what is right or ethical.”
Wood said he discussed the issue with the county attorney and the University of North Carolina School of Government.
Although legal opinions about whether the trip would violate the law vary, Wood said it was his opinion that City Council members and county commissioners, as government representatives with contracting authority, should not go on the flight.
To hear the Mayor of Greensboro Yvonne Johnson say that since local developer Roy Carroll had no financial interest in this property she was comfortable being on his personal plane to D.C. is a complete ethical lapse of judgement . As we all know there is a fall election coming up and she has some real competition in Bill Knight and to hear a sitting Mayor not understand the ethical aspects of this trip and why local elected officials should not be on this trip on a major donor to the mayor's campaign who has gotten tax incentives from both the city and the county as well. This is a good example of what is wrong with these local elected officials and some Community Foundation members like Walker Sanders and Lynn Wooten who don't understand the ethical apsects of this trip.
It is also interesting to note that there hasn't been one quote from the chairman of the Guilford County Board of Commissioners in Skip Alston about the postponing of this trip.
The Community Foundation of Greensboro had this to say in article
"The foundation is baffled as to how the flight could have been construed as a gift, spokeswoman Lynn Wooten said.
Carroll offered to let the foundation use the plane before it was clear who might travel to Washington on the trip, Wooten said."
It is fine and dandy for local developer Roy Carroll to offer the plane to take as many people as you want on this plane trip to D.C. like Uma Avva, David M. Ball ,Jon Bell, Louise F. Brady Chair-elect ,Chester H. “Trip” Brown, Jr. ,Kent J. Chabotar ,Sue Cole ,Elizabeth Cone ,Mona Edwards Chuck Flynt, ,William Geter ,Patrice A. Hinnant ,Kathy Hinshaw ,Tomasita Jacubowitz ,Joyce Johnson ,C.C. Lamberth ,Robert E. Long Jr. ,Kathy Manning ,Ken Miller ,Norman G. Samet ,Mable Scott ,Linda E. Sloan ,Andrew Spainhour Dennis G. Stearns ,Stuart A. Taylor ,Jerry Tolley ,Jonathan Wall ,Ed Whitfield ,James T. Williams, Chair ,Lea E. Williams ,Otis L. Wilson, Sr. ,David M. Worth andAnn B. Zuraw . These are all the names of the Board of Directors at Community Foundation of Greater Greensboro.
But don't take any local elected officials because it is completely unethical to have a local developer who has business in front of the Greensboro City Council and the Guilford County Board of Commissioners plenty of times in the past and I am sure plenty of times in the future on a unfettered access plane trip to D.C. to meet with the federal officials in D.C..